(UPDATED 111910) WAS IT A BIRD? WAS IT A PLANE? OR WAS IT A MISSILE? CHINA DID IT!!!

I have purposely waited a few days to weigh in on this subject simply to see what explanations have been tossed out in an effort to understand what this object was, seemingly coming out of the ocean west of LA.  I have heard everything from commercial jet to private citizen experiment to an actual unknown missile launch.  Being an Air Force Vet and knowing what I know about the federal/military systems that we have in place for this very purpose, to detect and analyze any unknowns entering our airspace, when you consider NORAD with all its capabilities, coupled with the FAA system, I can deduce that the military knows exactly what “it” was and is not saying…..  If they don’t know, they are incompetent and the system doesn’t work.  If this is the case, we have a serious problem with our national defenses.  One way or the other, we’re not being told the truth….

UPDATED 111910 GLEN BECK HAS THIS RIGHT

In my career, I was stationed at a base that was just south of the Kennedy Space Center/Cape Canaveral.  Over the years there, I witnessed many missile launches, both day and night, and I have also observed all manner of jets at high, medium and low altitudes as they traverse through the TCA’s.  In my opinion, from what video and pictures I have seen, this anomaly is nothing like what I have observed from commercial jets, even coming from over the horizon.  The contrail emitted from even 4 engine jets is much less dense, smaller, and dissipates very differently from what is demonstrated in the pictures.  The contrail from the mystery object is exactly what I have witnessed from all the missile launches I have seen.  I have seen Delta and Titan launches and I think that this object was in fact a missile of some sort.  I’m just sayin’………….

THIS JUST IN!  1852HRS

Wayne Madsen: China Fired Missile Seen In Southern California

If this is true, this is an unprecedented, IN YOUR FACE provocation, a shot across the bow of the USA and cannot be allowed to stand.  Our Government MUST file an immediate complaint and take all necessary actions to include sanctions against China.  China thinks they own us.  I guess we’ll find out now if they do.   This is going to get ugly. …………

UPDATE 111210

In my attempts to gather more information on this issue, I came across a post that cited a Notice to Mariners dated 6 November 2010, page 55;

“434/10(18).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
MISSILES.
1. INTERMITTENT MISSILE FIRING OPERATIONS 0001Z TO 2359Z
DAILY MONDAY THRU SUNDAY IN THE NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER
SEA RANGE. THE MAJORITY OF MISSILE FIRINGS TAKE PLACE
1400Z TO 2359Z AND 0001Z TO 0200Z DAILY MONDAY THRU FRIDAY
IN AREA BOUND BY
34-02N 119-04W, 33-52N 119-06W, 33-29N 118-37W,
33-20N 118-37W, 32-11N 120-16W, 31-54N 121-35W,
35-09N 123-39W, 35-29N 123-00W, 35-57N 121-32W,
34-04N 119-04W.
2. VESSELS MAY BE REQUESTED TO ALTER COURSE WITHIN THE ABOVE
AREA DUE TO FIRING OPERATIONS AND ARE REQUESTED TO CONTACT
PLEAD CONTROL ON 5081.5 MHZ (5080 KHZ) OR 3238.5 KHZ (3237 KHZ)
SECONDARY OR 156.8 MHZ (CH 16) OR 127.55 MHZ BEFORE ENTERING
THE ABOVE BOUNDARIES AND MAINTAIN CONTINUOUS GUARD WHILE
WITHIN THE RANGE.
3. VESSELS INBOUND AND OUTBOUND FOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA PORTS
WILL CREATE THE LEAST INTERFERENCE TO FIRING OPERATIONS
DURING THE SPECIFIC PERIODS, AS WELL AS ENHANCE THE VESSEL’S”

I checked the long/Lats indicated and what I found was quite interesting.  So, please correct me if I am wrong but, what the hell does these long/lats have to do with a suspected missile launch off the coast of California/LA, unless these are impact points?  Here is the raw data I came up with.  Judge for yourself…….

CLICK THE PIC FOR THE DOCUMENT. IS THIS REAL OR FAKE? ARE WE NOT INTERPRETING THE DATA CORRECTLY? I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN READING THESE TYPES COMMUNICATIONS THAT INCLUDE JULIAN DATES IN THE HEADER INFO. I AM PUZZLED...........DATES ARE RIGHT.....

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  1. #1 by Rick L. on 11/12/2010 - 11:25 am

    One can only speculate on what we are actually seeing and who’s responsible for what’s going on in this video. Obviously it’s some type of missile launched in close proximity to southern California. Close enough as to not disappear below the horizon anyway. We really can’t take the Governments word on any comments they would make. You can bet 10,000 to 1 that they know exactly what transpired and they are not going to tell the truth. OK, so the Chinese are ticked off because the US and some of our allies have been launching missiles in the South China and Yellow Seas just for practice, well, I’d feel the same way. I mean what’s wrong with the US and its allies practicing out in middle of the Pacific Ocean some where? What are they doing anyway? I mean just how many test do we actually need? If this launch is some sort of a threat because of Obama going to Seoul and Tokyo and other Asian cities, this is a good sign of what a threat Obama is to somebody other than America. Obama will cave in under this kind of pressure seeing as how he has no military or government experience. And being a devout Muslim he is an enemy of the U.S. anyway. Myself, I have a tendency to believe the Asian intelligence agencies over our own government about a Chinese Jin-SSBN Submarine being responsible for this incident. Being asleep at the wheel just like on 9-11, is one of the biggest enemies we have. Our military should have been on top of this. They know what a vulnerable area the route is the Chinese took and now they have egg on there face and the American people should know about it. To top it off, Obama wants to cut back on military funding. But this is just speculation, which is about all we’re going to get on this story.
    As a side note, seeing as how Barack Obama is a devout Muslim and he can recite quotes from the Quran without a teleprompter so well, here are some reasons why he should not be president of the United States.
    His allegiance is to Allah.
    No other Religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam.
    His allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran.
    His allegiance is to Mecca to which he turns to prayer five times a day.
    His allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
    He must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders) who teach annihilation of Israel and the destruction of America, the great Satan.
    He cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
    Because Islam, Muhammad and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
    When we declare “One nation under God” the Christian God is loving and kind, while Allah is never referred to as heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Qurans 99 excellent names.
    Perhaps we should all be suspicious of Muslims in this country. They obviously cannot be both good Muslims and good Americans.
    America is in Grave danger with this Muslim we have sitting in the White House.

  2. #2 by Rick L. on 11/12/2010 - 9:30 pm

    UPDATE 11-12-10 @2030 hrs
    This would appear to be just an on going detailed report updated coincidentally on or about the time of our suspect missile sighting off the southern coast of California. To me it appears to be just a “Notice to Mariners” about the location of testing in the Naval Air Warfare Center Sea Range off the coast and for non-military incoming/outgoing ships to be conscientious of their location and to notify. Now if the US Navy is responsible for this missile launch, why would they not say anything? Why would a missile of this size not be mentioned on this report #45 from the NGIA? Could it be that most of this data is just for location purposes only of objects like buoys, test sites and the like? Not actual events?

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