UBL IS DEAD………..OK, WAS HE REALLY BURIED AT SEA?

USS CARL VINSON - LONG DROP.....

Without seeing any video, I have a hard time justifying (for real) burying this idiot at sea…  To me, it just doesn’t make any real sense other than using that as a cover story in order to keep his grave from being a shrine and a pilgrimage destination……  It makes much more sense to really keep the body, at least the head, for “future reference” if necessary.  You gotta have something to show the Nae Sayers who refuse to believe he is really most sincerely dead.  If i were the President, I would want to see the body for myself, in person, blood and all.  I would have him shipped back to DC in a nondescript “small box”, all folded up nice and neat……  I’m just sayin’………And besides, I wouldn’t put it past Obama to do something like this just to piss off the Saudi’s so they tighten the oil supply that would work right into his plans of forcing Americans into his green agenda……

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  1. #1 by Rick L. on 05/05/2011 - 12:31 pm

    First thing, the last person I would want involved in this third death of Osama Bin Laden is President Obama. His judgment, word and integrity are the worst and he can not be trusted. But it’s too late for that now.

    I feel Osama has been dead for a number of years and this is the reason the news media was not contacted to report immediately upon Osama’s death and to see his body. This is also the reason he was supposedly buried at sea, there was no body of Osama. Also, after words, the military blew up a helicopter just to make this staged death more realistic to the Palestinians and as an added distraction. And as far as the DNA of Osama that was supposedly saved from his corpse, well that DNA is years old. And besides how did they obtain Osama’s DNA anyway? The last time he was in New York did someone ask him, Oh as long as you’re here, would you mind going to the hospital so we can get a sample of your DNA? This is just another lie fabricated by “Yours Truly” The United States Government trying to justify their position.

    This makes one wonder, what is the government trying to hide by bringing yet another death of Osama Bin Ladin and making the news media make such a big deal of it? Why are they making people look in another direction? Are they going to make Obama a big hero before election time? Is something else brewing in China or the Gulf of Mexico?

    Take from this interview what you want, it will give you more insight if you are interested. http://unite4peaceonearth.wordpress.com/2011/05/04/dr-steve-pieczenik-alex-jones-full-interview-5-3-11/ . Listen to it twice if need be. Like the man says, our Military has no country.

    • #2 by conservativeamericanvet on 05/05/2011 - 5:30 pm

      Unless I get absolute empirical, undeniable proof from a source I know to be totally reliable, I will never believe George W. Bush or any other member of the United States Government had anything to do with 911. That assertion is WAY over the top and just plain unprovable and outrageous. OK, just to make sure I have it straight…..The assertion is that GW is responsible for the deaths of about 3000 people and the destruction of the WTC? Man, that is just too much to believe. Imagine the ramifications of that……No way…..

  2. #3 by Rick L. on 05/06/2011 - 9:05 am

    Well sure, I can imagine a true Patriot would not want to except the possibility that our own government would play any part of the 9-11 attack on America, but in all reality I really have a real problem with an air liner crashing into the top of each trade center building causing each building to collapse straight down as though there was a well executed demolition of the floors below which show up on some videos. Just how was it that a project that would take months to prepare in buildings of their size and no one noticed, especially after two attempts of blowing up the towers years before. Also the new building owner of the twin towers just prior to the attack took out a huge multi million dollar policy on both buildings for terror attacks. Coincidental? Maybe. Why were Jeb Bush and Willie Brown the S.F. Mayor warned to be cautious about flying prior to the 9-11 events? Somebody knew something.

    One of the biggest questions is how was it that building 7 went down in the same fashion as building 1 & 2 and no plane hit anywhere near it? And building 7 was occupied by the FBI. An inside job? Or just our Homeland Security asleep at the wheel again? Asleep for months so a demolition crew could plant explosives throughout the building? Come on. I don’t know about you, but I would be extremely curious to what was going on in the building I worked in. Even though Silverstein said “pull it”, why was that building set up for demolition if it was occupied? What did he know? Very curious indeed.

    This entire catastrophe was an extremely curious sequence of events especially when a number of people interviewed heard explosions after the crashes. There have been significant traces of high explosive remnants found amongst the debris that was left in the aftermath. Also any attempt to launch counter attack air craft were not allowed to pursue. The pentagon had no signs of a jet hitting it, only a large whole where a missile projectile had penetrated the wall. Just where does a missile come from and where were the bodies?

    Speculation? I guess the only ones that know what happened and who was involved will never tell. Myself, I would not put anything past our government when American lives are concerned. Just how many solders have they sent to their demise? They were citizens of the United States once and to our government they are an un-limited supply of expendable humans that get brain washed at the get go in basic training.

    So sure, I have to agree with you that without absolute empirical undeniable proof I could not say our government was positively involved but there are too many un-answered questions and sequence of events that lead me to think they were 90% involved and helped orchestrate the entire catastrophe. Conspiracy theory or not I see more incriminating evidence towards the latter and the more one looks at any evidence the less likely it seems that Terrorist from abroad were responsible. Perhaps George Bush was not involved but he was certainly lied to by those around him.

    And besides, why would Osama Bin Laden deny taking credit for it? http://articles.cnn.com/2001-09-16/us/inv.binladen.denial_1_bin-laden-taliban-supreme-leader-mullah-mohammed-omar?_s=PM:US

    • #4 by conservativeamericanvet on 05/06/2011 - 4:19 pm

      This is going to be my final word on this issue and in doing so I must ask you a few questions. 1. Are you familiar with the construction and interior design of the twin towers? Do you have a full understanding of the load bearing structures in these buildings and how they were designed to carry the load? 2. Do you understand how hot JP-4 or JP-8 gets when burned? 3. Do you understand how much force is created when heavy objects, (such as high rise building materials) get moving and momentum is generated? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque If you understood these simple truths, you would see and understand that your assertions are completely wrong. 1. These buildings were of a revolutionary design never done before. The entire load bearing steel in these building was on the exterior, with the inner core of the buildings being the service spaces and stairwells. This “core” was made of concrete and had little load bearing ability. Each floor of the building was basically hung from the core and attached to the outer load bearing wall. This allowed for large open spaces inside the office areas. The vast majority of the load was bourn by the outer steel shell comprised of the vertical girders running the entire height of the towers. 2. When the large aircrafts hit the buildings, they took out huge portions of the load bearing supports, thus forcing the rest of the steel to support the load that was being supported by the now missing steel, leaving gaping holes, the full width of the aircraft wingspan. The fuel tanks in the aircraft were obliterated, atomizing the jet fuel, resulting in the interior of the structure being sprayed with fuel and then igniting. http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/how-hot.htm The resulting fire was hot enough to severely compromise the remaining steel supports. 3. When they finally gave way, the entire weight of the floors above the fire, began to fall, generating enough moments of energy that the remaining structure could not withstand, resulting in the total failure and collapse and pan caking of the remaining floors, all the way to the ground. Ever try and catch a falling bowling ball? Try it. See how much energy is generated in just a 3 foot fall by just that little weight. Multiply that by the thousands and I think you should be able to get a rudimentary understanding of the forces at play as the buildings support structures failed. To stand by your assertions, in the face of the basic facts of the matter, simply indicates that you are unwilling, because of your bias, to see the simple, immutable, truth and reality surrounding the collapse of these buildings. As far as the other surrounding building were concerned, have you put any thought into the circumstances that made those building unsafe? Do you realize how much heavy debris also went through those buildings, weakening them to the point of failure too? Do you know how heavy aircraft engines are, especially when moving at several hundred miles an hour, not to mention all the other heavy debris falling from the buildings themselves? In my humble opinion, you need to re-assess your ability to think in a logical, linear manner and not be influenced by outlandish, absurd assertions by others, and your hatred of those you want to blame for this tragedy. I was in the military at the time of the attack and I watched it unfold on my TV that morning. I saw the buildings fail and I could tell exactly what was happening and why those buildings collapsed. It wasn’t rocket science and it wasn’t a conspiracy by our own politicians. It was simple physics. You kick a leg out from under a table and what happens? It falls………There is nothing more to this. Nuff said!

  3. #5 by Rick L. on 05/07/2011 - 7:50 pm

    You know your right, our government would never be part of such a horrific event let alone allow a non-citizen to be president of the united states, commander in chief, in charge of the military, someone to make decisions that effect every American and their children for decades. They would never allow a muslim family to live in our white house. They would never impose martial law on our country and have police states in all, what was it 57 states? Our government would never let an illegal Mexican enter this country without having a visa or whatever it takes to live in this country for free. Our government would never treat our CONSTITUTION like it’s a piece of DIRT. Our government would never lie to the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

    • #6 by conservativeamericanvet on 05/09/2011 - 4:21 pm

      Ahh, sarcasm………..Nice…….

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