(UPDATED 071712 CRITICAL TRUTH UPDATE)(UPDATED 080112) HILLARY CLINTON AND OBAMA ARE GOING TO SIGN THE US INTO THE UN GUN CONTROL TREATY ON JULY 27TH 2012

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IS THIS WHAT SHE IS THINKING? IS SHE A PATRIOT OR A _________________ FILL IN THE BLANK IN THE COMMENTS…..

Until I heard Dick Morris on Hannity today, I thought that we were going to be ok on this issue because it takes 2/3rds of the Senate to ratify any treaty, and since there is no way 2/3rds of the Senate would sign on to this, we were going to be good. Well, according to Dick Morris, in this case, this is not true. According to him, because the United States is a signator of the Geneva Conventions (I think this is what he said, I was driving and a little distracted, but the rest was clear), it will become binding upon the signature of the President and will remain so until the Senate votes to renounce it along with the President and Sec. of State. This of course will not happen if we lose these elections and even in the event of a lame duck senate, they will try to push this crap through. I urge you all to share this as much as possible and pass the word. Sign the petition and state your displeasure in the body of the letter to your Reps like I did.This is nothing short of an “End Run” around the Constitution and the will of the American Citizens and cannot be allowed to succeed.  These people MUST pay the political price at the polls this election cycle.  NEVER LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT , it is the Dems who are working feverishly to get your guns and turn this nation into just another socialist European nation and they must be taken out of office now!

THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR ALL WHO LOVE THIS COUNTRY AND CARE ABOUT KEEPING IT THE LAND OF THE FREE AND THE BRAVE. THAT IS NO LONGER A PUNCH LINE….. STAND UP AND BE COUNTED.

CRITICAL UPDATE 071712

After doing a lot of detective work, I was able to decipher what is really going on with this issue.  First, it was not the Geneva Convention that Morris cited.  It was the Vienna Convention.  Most of the hub-bub is about section 12 of this document which basically outlines the binding nature of the document via the signators.  After finding this information I was lead to Richard Nixon who sent this to the Senate; http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=2036. 

Now you will read on this document; 185 - Message to the Senate Transmitting the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations and the Optional Protocol Concerning the Compulsory Settlement of Disputes  May 5, 1969.  I underline the key thing here…  Finding this, I went to Thomas/Library of Congress  and did a search for treaty “Vienna Convention”.  This is what is shown for the treaty in question;

Short Title:   VIENNA CONVENTION ON THE LAW OF TREATIES
Type:   International Law and Organization
Countries:   un–multilateral
Formal Title:   The Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, signed for the United States on April 24, 1970


Legislative Actions   

Floor Action:   November 22, 1971 – Received in the Senate and referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations by unanimous consent.

Committee Action:   August 03, 1972 – Committee on Foreign Relations. Hearings held.
Committee Action:   August 08, 1972 – Committee on Foreign Relations. Committee consideration held.
Committee Action:   September 07, 1972 – Committee on Foreign Relations. Ordered to be reported with understandings and interpretation.
Committee Action:   September 19, 1972 – Committee on Foreign Relations. Committee consideration held.
Committee Action:   November 08, 1973 – Committee on Foreign Relations. Committee consideration held.
Committee Action:   April 30, 1974 – Committee on Foreign Relations. Committee consideration held. Index Terms :  
92-12
LAW OF TREATIES
T.DOC. 92-12
VIENNA CONVENTION
Control Number:  092TD00012
So as you can see, it was tabled and not ratified.  Therefore is non sequitur as it relates to this case in question.  Now there is another Vienna Convention treaty that WAS ratified, and that was  “VIENNA CONVENTION ON CONSULAR RELATIONS WITH OPTIONAL PROTOCOL”.  The information is as follows:
Treaty Number:   91-5
Old Number:   Ex. E, 91st Congress, 1st Session
Transmitted:   May 05, 1969
Short Title:   VIENNA CONVENTION ON CONSULAR RELATIONS WITH OPTIONAL PROTOCOL
Type:   Consular
Countries:   n/a
Senate Executive Report(s):   91-9
Related Document(s):   Ex. Rept. 91-9

Legislative Actions   

Floor Action:   May 05, 1969 – Received in the Senate and referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations by unanimous consent.
Floor Action:   October 21, 1969 – Reported by Senator Fulbright Committee on Foreign Relations, with printed report – Ex.Rept. 91-9.
Floor Action:   October 22, 1969 – Resolution of advice and consent to ratification agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay vote. 81-0. Record Vote No: 130 EX. Index Terms :  
COMPULSORY SETTLEMENT OF DISPUTES
CONSULAR
CONSULAR RELATIONS
OPTIONAL PROTOCOL
SETTLEMENT OF DISPUTES
VIENNA CONVENTION
Control Number:  091TD00005
So with all this being said, it looks like Dick Morris is a little off base on this issue.  This Vienna Convention treaty has nothing to do with the subject matter at hand so it seems that the Senate will still have to ratify this Arms treaty should Hillary and Obama sign us into it.  From all the reporting I am finding, it will be DOA in the Senate as there ae more than enough votes to kill it.  Below I am including a bunch of links that lead me to my conclusions.  I hope this information helps.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/rubio-romney-vp-candidate/2012/07/16/id/445539
http://christian-libertarian.org/2012/07/16/arms-trade-treaty-alarmism/
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=2036
http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2517&context=faculty_scholarship
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ntquery/D?trtys:5:./temp/~trtys5NyiFE::

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CFcQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foreign.senate.gov%2Fdownload%2F%3Fid%3D6A9E53D1-B925-4863-9590-DBF056D30B57&ei=aaAFUMvHEciP6wHvsqH4CA&usg=AFQjCNHHGRhiAGaULkfFDo-ofhBvLtnP3w&sig2=SUAV4OFaVYzOkaEeLLIKUQ

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/thomas    Go to Thomas and research 91st and 92nd congress/senate vienna convention.  Here will be the definitive data on the subject…

UPDATED 080112

The UN failed their attempt at this nefarious plan.  Click HERE for the details.

  1. #1 by Rick L. on 07/23/2012 - 8:06 am

    This latest Black Knight incident should pretty much seal the deal on this.

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