Committee Action: August 03, 1972 – Committee on Foreign Relations. Hearings held.
Committee Action: August 08, 1972 – Committee on Foreign Relations. Committee consideration held.
Committee Action: September 07, 1972 – Committee on Foreign Relations. Ordered to be reported with understandings and interpretation.
Committee Action: September 19, 1972 – Committee on Foreign Relations. Committee consideration held.
Committee Action: November 08, 1973 – Committee on Foreign Relations. Committee consideration held.
Committee Action: April 30, 1974 – Committee on Foreign Relations. Committee consideration held. Index Terms :
92-12
LAW OF TREATIES
T.DOC. 92-12
VIENNA CONVENTION
Control Number: 092TD00012
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RUSSIA SIGNS AGREEMEMNT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY/JANET NAPOLITANO TO PROVIDE 15000+ TROOPS FOR EMERGENCY RESPONSE IN AMERICA
Posted by conservativeamericanvet in 1st AMENDMENT ISSUES, 2nd AMENDMENT ISSUES, BIG BROTHER, COMMUNIST PARTY ACTIONS IN THE USA, CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES, CORRUPT POLITICIANS, DHS WATCH, FOUNDING FATHERS STUFF, HOT NEWS!!, LEFT WING EXTREMIST STUFF, LIBERAL/SOCIALIST BEING EXPOSED AND/OR CONFRONTED, MOVE TOWARDS POLICE STATE, NATIONAL DEFENSE ISSUES, NEW WORLD ORDER STUFF, OBAMA WATCH, PATRIOTIC STUFF, POWER GRABS, RADICALS, ROUGE AGENCIES, TAKING BACK THE GOVERNMENT, UPCOMING ELECTIONS, USEFULL INFORMATION, VETERAN ISSUES, WHITEHOUSE THUGGERY on 07/04/2013
CODE 3 EMERGENCY
Yea, you read that right.. I am at a loss on explaining how this could be a good thing for the American People. Are they (The Feds) afraid that in the event of an emergency (martial law) that US troops will not fire on US citizens if ordered to? This is beyond the pale and unacceptable on so many levels it is beyond explanation. THERE NEEDS TO BE A FULL AND COMPLETE EXPOSE’ AND INVESTIGATION DONE ON THIS NOW!!! Here are the reports:
http://www.infowars.com/foreign-troops-are-already-operating-inside-america/
http://www.inquisitr.com/828674/russian-troops-on-american-soil-confirmed/
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BRITISH WANT THEIR GUNS BACK
Posted by conservativeamericanvet in 2nd AMENDMENT ISSUES on 07/23/2012
(UPDATED 071712 CRITICAL TRUTH UPDATE)(UPDATED 080112) HILLARY CLINTON AND OBAMA ARE GOING TO SIGN THE US INTO THE UN GUN CONTROL TREATY ON JULY 27TH 2012
Posted by conservativeamericanvet in 2012 Vote, 2nd AMENDMENT ISSUES, CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES, CORRUPT POLITICIANS, FOUNDING FATHERS STUFF, HOT NEWS!!, LEFT WING EXTREMIST STUFF, LIBERAL/SOCIALIST BEING EXPOSED AND/OR CONFRONTED, OP-ED, POLITICAL NEWS, POWER GRABS, RADICALS, ROAD TO SOCIALISM, UPDATED STORIES, USEFULL INFORMATION on 07/16/2012
HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT
IS THIS WHAT SHE IS THINKING? IS SHE A PATRIOT OR A _________________ FILL IN THE BLANK IN THE COMMENTS…..
Until I heard Dick Morris on Hannity today, I thought that we were going to be ok on this issue because it takes 2/3rds of the Senate to ratify any treaty, and since there is no way 2/3rds of the Senate would sign on to this, we were going to be good. Well, according to Dick Morris, in this case, this is not true. According to him, because the United States is a signator of the Geneva Conventions (I think this is what he said, I was driving and a little distracted, but the rest was clear), it will become binding upon the signature of the President and will remain so until the Senate votes to renounce it along with the President and Sec. of State. This of course will not happen if we lose these elections and even in the event of a lame duck senate, they will try to push this crap through. I urge you all to share this as much as possible and pass the word. Sign the petition and state your displeasure in the body of the letter to your Reps like I did.This is nothing short of an “End Run” around the Constitution and the will of the American Citizens and cannot be allowed to succeed. These people MUST pay the political price at the polls this election cycle. NEVER LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT , it is the Dems who are working feverishly to get your guns and turn this nation into just another socialist European nation and they must be taken out of office now!
THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR ALL WHO LOVE THIS COUNTRY AND CARE ABOUT KEEPING IT THE LAND OF THE FREE AND THE BRAVE. THAT IS NO LONGER A PUNCH LINE….. STAND UP AND BE COUNTED.
CRITICAL UPDATE 071712
After doing a lot of detective work, I was able to decipher what is really going on with this issue. First, it was not the Geneva Convention that Morris cited. It was the Vienna Convention. Most of the hub-bub is about section 12 of this document which basically outlines the binding nature of the document via the signators. After finding this information I was lead to Richard Nixon who sent this to the Senate; http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=2036.
Now you will read on this document; 185 – Message to the Senate Transmitting the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations and the Optional Protocol Concerning the Compulsory Settlement of Disputes May 5, 1969. I underline the key thing here… Finding this, I went to Thomas/Library of Congress and did a search for treaty “Vienna Convention”. This is what is shown for the treaty in question;
Short Title: VIENNA CONVENTION ON THE LAW OF TREATIES
Type: International Law and Organization
Countries: un–multilateral
Formal Title: The Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, signed for the United States on April 24, 1970
Legislative Actions
Floor Action: November 22, 1971 – Received in the Senate and referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations by unanimous consent.
So as you can see, it was tabled and not ratified. Therefore is non sequitur as it relates to this case in question. Now there is another Vienna Convention treaty that WAS ratified, and that was “VIENNA CONVENTION ON CONSULAR RELATIONS WITH OPTIONAL PROTOCOL”. The information is as follows:
Treaty Number: 91-5
Old Number: Ex. E, 91st Congress, 1st Session
Transmitted: May 05, 1969
Short Title: VIENNA CONVENTION ON CONSULAR RELATIONS WITH OPTIONAL PROTOCOL
Type: Consular
Countries: n/a
Senate Executive Report(s): 91-9
Related Document(s): Ex. Rept. 91-9
Legislative Actions
Floor Action: May 05, 1969 – Received in the Senate and referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations by unanimous consent.
Floor Action: October 21, 1969 – Reported by Senator Fulbright Committee on Foreign Relations, with printed report – Ex.Rept. 91-9.
Floor Action: October 22, 1969 – Resolution of advice and consent to ratification agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay vote. 81-0. Record Vote No: 130 EX. Index Terms :
COMPULSORY SETTLEMENT OF DISPUTES
CONSULAR
CONSULAR RELATIONS
OPTIONAL PROTOCOL
SETTLEMENT OF DISPUTES
VIENNA CONVENTION
Control Number: 091TD00005
Old Number: Ex. E, 91st Congress, 1st Session
Transmitted: May 05, 1969
Short Title: VIENNA CONVENTION ON CONSULAR RELATIONS WITH OPTIONAL PROTOCOL
Type: Consular
Countries: n/a
Senate Executive Report(s): 91-9
Related Document(s): Ex. Rept. 91-9
Legislative Actions
Floor Action: May 05, 1969 – Received in the Senate and referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations by unanimous consent.
Floor Action: October 21, 1969 – Reported by Senator Fulbright Committee on Foreign Relations, with printed report – Ex.Rept. 91-9.
Floor Action: October 22, 1969 – Resolution of advice and consent to ratification agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay vote. 81-0. Record Vote No: 130 EX. Index Terms :
COMPULSORY SETTLEMENT OF DISPUTES
CONSULAR
CONSULAR RELATIONS
OPTIONAL PROTOCOL
SETTLEMENT OF DISPUTES
VIENNA CONVENTION
Control Number: 091TD00005
So with all this being said, it looks like Dick Morris is a little off base on this issue. This Vienna Convention treaty has nothing to do with the subject matter at hand so it seems that the Senate will still have to ratify this Arms treaty should Hillary and Obama sign us into it. From all the reporting I am finding, it will be DOA in the Senate as there ae more than enough votes to kill it. Below I am including a bunch of links that lead me to my conclusions. I hope this information helps.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/rubio-romney-vp-candidate/2012/07/16/id/445539
http://christian-libertarian.org/2012/07/16/arms-trade-treaty-alarmism/
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=2036
http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2517&context=faculty_scholarship
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ntquery/D?trtys:5:./temp/~trtys5NyiFE::
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/thomas Go to Thomas and research 91st and 92nd congress/senate vienna convention. Here will be the definitive data on the subject…
UPDATED 080112
The UN failed their attempt at this nefarious plan. Click HERE for the details.
FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS – Why we have the 2nd Amendment – Charlton Heston
Posted by conservativeamericanvet in 2nd AMENDMENT ISSUES, OP-ED, PATRIOTIC STUFF on 02/18/2012
GUN THIEVES TARGETING GUN SHOP PATRONS
Posted by conservativeamericanvet in 2nd AMENDMENT ISSUES, USEFULL INFORMATION on 01/31/2012
Don't let the thieves get you guns!!
This is an excerpt from a newsletter I get that I thought I would pass on to all who exercise their 2nd Amendment rights;
While I was in a Denver gun store today, my car was tagged on the wheel in the parking lot. The gangs do this on
wheels or bumpers at gun stores, shooting ranges, gun shows etc. Later when you are parked at a restaurant, hotel, or
other location that’s less well guarded or not under video surveillance, other gang members spot the marker and break into the car fora quick gun grab. This is so RAMPANT in San Antonio where we were for a National shoot this summer, the police chief of that county came out to brief the 400 participants of our competition. Too bad three teams had already been victimized the first day. This is the first I’ve heard of this in Denver . Please pass this info along to your 2nd amendment list.
This next comment from a Gunsite instructor:
I don’t know how widespread this is becoming , but the info regarding the NSCA Nationals in San Antonio is correct, as all of us who compete in sporting clays know. Competitors there were having their vehicles marked with a small adhesive dot on the rear license plate or rear bumper, then followed for miles and having their vehicles quickly and efficiently broken in to when parked for lunch etc. Some crews were working the parking lot at the Nationals itself. 27 high-end shotguns were taken there recently. They know when 1400 shooters with high $$ competition guns are in town. BTW I shot with a young man who was trying out a new gun at the Nationals.
He and his father lost all their guns and equipment while making a quick stop for lunch at a BBQ place in Corpus Christi the month before. Please be aware that other could target you because of your affiliation with the National Guard or a gun club or store.
(UPDATED 022112 WITH REPLY FROM CONGRESSWOMAN JAMIE HERERRA-BUETLER – UPDATED 121911 WITH REPLY FROM SENATOR PATTY MURRAY) (UPDATED WITH VIDEO) WASHINGTON REPRESENTATIVE JAIME HERRERA-BEUTLER AND SENATORS CANTWELL AND MURRAY VOTES AWAY OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS / CONGRESSIONAL VOTING RECORD ON THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2012
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OUR FUTURE HOMES? MAYBE............
As this article outlines, this bill is so draconian you might as well tear up the Bill of Rights. I am appalled that Congress would do such a thing. It is now legal to use the might of the United States military against its own citizens in the USA. All the government needs to do is use the laws and guidelines, the very same ones I have been highlighting on this web site, determine that whatever you are doing falls within the “you might be a terrorist if” guidelines published by the DHA, and the next thing you know, you have the DOD breaking down your door at 3am and hauling you off to jail because simply, they can…. That IS where we are now thanks to the very people who we sent to DC to protect our rights and I am so very disappointed in my Rep. She is a Freshman and was specifically sent to NOT do what she just did. Check the list below to see how your Rep voted. It is truly a bleak and black day in and for America………………
Votes by Representative
MY LETTER TO MY REPS;
I am writing you to express my dismay at your vote concerning The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal 2012. Your main purpose in Congress, as stated by your Oath of Office was to protect the Constitution and the rights of the citizens of this nation. Your AYE vote on this Bill is blatantly just the exact opposite. While the poorly crafted language is seemingly aimed at persons inside the United States who are aiding identified terrorist organizations, the language is purposely vague so that it could be interpreted in very broad terms and conditions which can be “cherry picked” and used against the citizenry in most draconian ways. This Bill effectively tears up the intent of The Bill of Rights as written by our Founding Fathers. You know this and you still voted in favor of passage of this Constitution crushing legislation. In my opinion, you are unfit to serve because you willingly violated your oath of office and violated the rights of the citizens of Washington State. I will not in any way shape or form, support you in your upcoming election. In fact I think you should be recalled immediately. I anticipate that your response to this letter will include your rational for this betrayal to your oath and to the citizens you were supposed to represent. In that light, it will be shallow and not acceptable as usual.
CLICK THE PIC FOR THE VIDEO
REPLY FROM SENATOR PATTY MURRAY:
Thank you for contacting me with your concerns regarding military detention. It is good to hear from you. As you know, in the aftermath of the attacks of September 11, 2001, the Bush administration devised a new detention system outside of established legal structures of the U.S. criminal justice system and military courts-martial. Through legislation and a series of high-profile Supreme Court rulings, both Congress and the federal judiciary took action to clarify and limit parts of the Bush administration’s detention programs. Although President Obama has taken some important steps toward the fair and humane treatment of detainees, I believe much more work has yet to be done. I continue to support closing the detention center at Guantanamo Bay and the ability of the Administration to try terror suspects in the U.S. federal court system. The federal courts are well-equipped to handle these complex and difficult cases—since 2006, federal courts have successfully tried over 300 terrorism suspects while military commissions have tried only three. I strongly support giving our military and intelligence agencies the tools they need to protect our nation and our service members. I understand some evidence against detainees may be too sensitive to national security to be presented in civilian court or may be tainted due to harsh interrogation techniques. Right now, the Secretary of Defense and the Attorney General can decide whether to use a military tribunal or a federal court. I believe the Obama administration should continue to have the flexibility to decide on a case-by-case basis, and I opposed Republican amendments during consideration of the National Defense Authorization Act that would strip the President of this authority.
Please be assured that I will keep your views on this important topic in mind during the 112th Congress. If you would like to know more about my work in the United States Senate, please feel free to sign up for my weekly updates at http://murray.senate.gov/updates/. Thank you again for contacting me and please keep in touch.
Sincerely,
Patty Murray
United States Senator
(my comment; You see, she does not care about the Bill of Rights)
UPDATED 121911
Lawmaker obtains commitment to revisit detainee language
UPDATED 022112 REPLY FROM CONGRESSWOMAN JAIME HERRARA BEUTLER
February 14, 2012
Thank you for contacting me about Sections 1021 and 1022 of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). It is an honor to represent the people of Southwest Washington, and it is important for me to hear from folks in our region.
I certainly understand your concerns about Sections 1021 and 1022 of the NDAA and how these sections impact our civil liberties and Constitutional rights. I am a firm believer that your federal representative should take a proactive role in preserving your Constitutional rights.
I have not and will not support any legislation that would limit your Constitutional rights or allow American citizens to be detained under military authority and held without due process. Please let me share with you why I believe the NDAA takes the proper steps to preserve your Constitutional rights and provide the President and our military with the tools they need to combat terrorism.
The NDAA reaffirms that the President may use “all necessary and appropriate force pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF)” against al Qaeda and the Taliban. The AUMF was authorized following the September 11th terrorist attacks and had not been updated since it was originally sanctioned in 2001. It is important to provide the President and our military with the resources they need to combat al Qaeda and the Taliban, and this bill accomplishes this goal by reaffirming current laws and without expanding presidential authority.
People had very valid and legitimate concerns about Section 1021 of the NDAA as it relates to the use of force. Before voting for the NDAA I checked to make sure this legislation will not take away from or infringe upon your Constitutional rights. The use of force does not apply to U.S. Citizens, in fact Section 1021, Subsection E which explicitly exempts U.S. citizens reads: (e) AUTHORITIES.—Nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States.
Section 1022 of the NDAA clarifies procedures for how non-U.S. citizens linked to al Qaeda or the Taliban are to be detained. Evidence must be presented that demonstrates a foreign national’s link to al Qaeda or the Taliban in order for the detainment to be legal. This section clarifies that terrorists apprehended by law enforcement agencies must be held under military custody. However, Section 1022, Subsection B explicitly exempts U.S. citizens and legal residents. It reads:(b) APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS AND LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.
(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis of conduct taking place within the United States, except to the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.
Our country continues to be under the very real threat of terrorism, and it is important to make sure our military is proper equipped to protect our citizens. It is equally important for us to take steps to preserve and uphold our Constitutional rights. The NDAA accomplish both of these goals.
Thank you again for contacting me on this important issue. I invite you to visit my website at www.HerrreraBeutler.house.gov for additional information or to sign up to be kept up to date on this important issue. Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of assistance.
Sincerely,
Jaime Herrera Beutler
Member of Congress
CBS REPORTS “FAST & FURIOUS” WAS TO BE USED AS JUSTIFICATION FOR MORE GUN CONTROL LAWS
NEED WE SAY MORE?
Yup, you read that right…., a mainstream media outlet is reporting that “F&F” data was to be used as evidence that more gun laws should be enacted. This just goes to show how deep the sedition against the Constitution and Bill of Rights really is. It is these very people in the Federal Government that must be weeded out and fired, never again to have any responsibility or avenues of influence in ANY government function. Of course the problem is, many in Congress share that ideal. Click the pic for the details. It sickens me…….
(UPDATED 120111/120811) S.1867 WILL KILL DEMOCRACY AND AMERICA AS WE KNEW IT……..
Posted by conservativeamericanvet in 1st AMENDMENT ISSUES, 2012 Vote, 2nd AMENDMENT ISSUES, BIG BROTHER, BILLS BEFORE CONGRESS AND SENATE, CORRUPT POLITICIANS, FOUNDING FATHERS STUFF, HOT NEWS!!, JAIME HERERRA-BEUTLER, LEFT WING EXTREMIST STUFF, LETTERS TO ELECTED OFFICIALS, MARIA CANTWELL, OP-ED, PATRIOTIC STUFF, PATTY MURRAY, PLAN FOR REFORMING THE GOVERNMENT, POLITICAL COMMENTARY, POLITICAL NEWS, POWER GRABS, TAKING BACK THE GOVERNMENT, UPDATED POSTS, UPDATED STORIES, USEFULL INFORMATION, VETERAN ISSUES on 11/29/2011
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Franklin's Contributions to the Conference on February 17 (III) Fri, Feb 17, 1775
I am asking all voting Americans to contact your Senators and demand that they not vote in favor of this legislation, “S.1867 – Military Construction Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012”. As much as I despise the ACLU, they are right on this issue and we must not stand for this latest assault on the American Public. You take the DHS publication on Extremism, and couple it with this legislation and you will see that the forces inside the Federal Government that want to put us all in jail are still at work and is alive and well. This could be the final shot across our bow that seals our fate. If this language is left in this legislation and passes both the House and Senate and is signed into law, (which I have no doubt the current occupier of the WH will do) the great experiment called Democracy, that our Founding Fathers established, will be dead. This is not an exaggeration or doom and gloom stuff. If you don’t think so, you’re simply ignorant or not paying attention. In either case, we’re all in trouble. Click here and here for the details.
There is another issue with this legislation because it also covers the Tri-Care medical program that military retirees use. It states;
SEC. 701. ANNUAL COST-OF-LIVING ADJUSTMENT IN ENROLLMENT FEES IN TRICARE PRIME.
(a) In General- Section 1097a of title 10, United States Code, is amended–
(1) by redesignating subsections (c), (d), (e), and (f) as subsections (d), (e), (f), and (g), respectively; and
(2) by inserting after subsection (b) the following new subsection (c):
`(c) Cost-of-living Adjustment in Enrollment Fee- (1) Whenever after September 30, 2012, the Secretary of Defense increases the retired pay of members and former members of the armed forces pursuant to section 1401a of this title, the Secretary shall increase the amount of the fee payable for enrollment in TRICARE Prime by an amount equal to the percentage of such fee payable on the day before the date of the increase of such fee that is equal to the percentage increase in such retired pay. In determining the amount of the increase in such retired pay for purposes of this subsection, the Secretary shall use the amount computed pursuant to section 1401a(b)(2) of this title. The increase in such fee shall be effective as of January 1 following the date of the increase in such retired pay.
`(2) The Secretary shall publish in the Federal Register the amount of the fee payable for enrollment in TRICARE Prime whenever increased pursuant to this subsection.’.
So what it saying is, if retirees get a COLA increase in their retirement checks,they will use Tri-Care to get it back…… This is the kind of back door, back stabbing legislation we Vets and Americans are sick of. Those in congress who push this type of legislation must be voted out of office as we reform our REPRESENTATIVE form of government.
MY LETTER TO MY REPS ON THIS:
I am writing as your constituent in the 3rd Congressional district of Washington. I oppose S.1867 – Military Construction Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012, and am tracking it using OpenCongress.org, the free public resource website for government transparency and accountability. This legislation is a direct assault on the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and if you vote in favor of this Bill in its present form, you will be in violation of your oath of office and that will not go unnoticed. As Benjamin Franklin said on Feb 17th, 1775, “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” This struggle we find ourselves in now is not to be used as justification to tear our democracy asunder. We citizens are relying on you to protect our inviolate foundational tenets and GOD GIVEN RIGHTS. We demand you do so or you will most definitely find yourself voted out of office come your next election cycle. As this letter is being sent to all three of my Representatives in Congress, this legislation will not go before the House unless the Senate gives it an up vote. If it is passed in the Senate and goes to the House, my Representative in the House will be held to the same standard as my Senators. Our Democracy is in danger, do the right thing and vote no on this democracy killing legislation.
REPLY FROM CANTWELL: (sort of..)
Thank you for contacting me regarding the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012. I appreciate hearing from you on this matter.
Senator Carl Levin (D-MI) introduced the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 on May 5, 2011. This legislation was passed by the Senate Armed Services Committee by a vote of 26-0 on November 15, 2011. The National Defense Authorization Act is enacted each fiscal year to specify the budget and expenditures of the U.S. Department of Defense. The National Defense Authorization Act for 2012 includes numerous provisions that relate to the treatment of terrorism detainees. One such provision requires that any detainee caught on U.S. soil must be remanded to the U.S. military for custody. This provision is strongly opposed by the White House and the Department of Defense; both entities have stated that it will limit current options available to our counter-terrorism officials. However, the legislation also allows the Administration to waive the mandatory custody requirement. The bill also provides for an exemption for any mandatory custody transfer that would interfere with ongoing civilian law enforcement surveillance or interrogation efforts. Please be assured that I will keep your thoughts should I have the opportunity to vote on these or similar provisions. I am profoundly grateful for the service of our brave men and women in the armed services and for the sacrifices they have made to defend and preserve our great nation. As such, we have an important responsibility to ensure that they have the tools and resources they need to successfully complete their mission and return home safe. Please be assured that I will continue to work with my colleagues on behalf of the many soldiers in the state of Washington.
Thank you again for contacting me to share your thoughts on this matter. You may also be interested in signing up for periodic updates for Washington State residents. If you are interested in subscribing to this update, please visit my website at http://cantwell.senate.gov. Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future if I can be of further assistance.
Sincerely,
Maria Cantwell
United States Senator
My Comment;
NOTICE HOW SHE DOES NOT TOUCH ON MY CONCERNS? IS SHE RESPONSIVE TO OUR CONCERNS? I SAY NO!
SENATE SAYS NO TO UDALL AMENDMENT that would have taken the worst out of this Bill.
UPDATED 120111
UPDATED 120811
(UPDATED 111711) OBAMA’S BLM IS GOING TO CUT YOUR ACCESS TO PUBLIC LANDS FOR SHOOTING AND HUNTING
IT WON'T STOP HERE......Click the pic for the story.
As I have been reporting since I started this website, the Lib/Progressives are hell-bent on doing everything they can to restrict your gun rights in one way or another. In this case, through regulations, the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) will severely restrict access to public land for the purpose of any shooting activity, to include hunting. In the proposed regulation, this paragraph is the Coup de grâce to the shooting public; “When the authorized officer determines that a site or area on BLM-managed lands used on a regular basis for recreational shooting is creating public disturbance, or is creating risk to other persons on public lands; is contributing to the defacement, removal or destruction of natural features, native plants, cultural resources, historic structures or government and/or private property; is facilitating or creating a condition of littering, refuse accumulation and abandoned personal property is violating existing use restrictions, closure and restriction orders, or supplementary rules notices, and reasonable attempts to reduce or eliminate the violations by the BLM have been unsuccessful, the authorized officer will close the affected area to recreational shooting.” In reading this, it is very evident that whomever authored it was trying very hard to tie up every situation they could think of that could be used as justification to shut down recreational shooting or even hunting. At this point, I don’t have any information that would indicate what type of violations these would be, if any. But be warned, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Feds didn’t make it at least a class c felony, which in turn would make you a felon and take away your gun rights. Remember, these people are after you and your guns. They will take and make every advantage they can. The National Wildlife Foundation, Cabela’s and the Wildlife and Hunting Heritage Conservation Council are trying to fight this issue but so far it has not received much attention. Click HERE for their paper on this.
UPDATED 111711
Did the BLM back down? Maybe…… Click HERE for info
ERIC HOLDER STILL AT REFORMING GUN LAWS……
Posted by conservativeamericanvet in 2nd AMENDMENT ISSUES, CORRUPT POLICE WATCH, CORRUPT POLITICIANS on 11/05/2011
ERIC HOLDER, Click the pic for the story
Here’s the situation as I see it; Eric Holder and his group actively send guns into Mexico and then blame John Q. Public for it and then use that premise to push for new gun laws…..Hmmm, anybody else see anything wrong with this? This is the type of back door dirty dealings that I expect from the Left, but to hear some members of the GOP say that they will delve into this after their “Fast and Furious” investigation is over is alarming. That is why we all must NEVER turn our back on ANY Politician, Left or Right. None can be trusted and we all need to run rough-shod” over each and every one of them to keep them in line.
(UPDATED 111711 – 010612) H.R.822 – National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2011
HOW CAN THIS TAKE A HARD LEFT ON US?
As I read this Bill, on the surface it seems fairly benign and well intentioned, but as I apply a few brain cells of thought to this, I find a few problems with it. First off, and the most obvious problem, is the very real possibility that this legislation could be “modified” in the future in such a way that it actually becomes detrimental to our rights under the 2nd Amendment. If you read the text, the 2nd is specifically and conspicuously mentioned, however, this means nothing as this legislation, as with all others is subject to change and there is no reason why we should believe that it wouldn’t be changed in ways that it wasn’t originally planned. Everyone should know as well as I do that once the Feds get their grubby hands on ANYTHING, it gets screwed up in ways that always flow in the direction of the prevailing political winds. This legislation is no different. Realistically, it comes down to a level of trust, and right now I have ZERO faith and trust in the Federal Government, in its current state. This could prove to be the “Trojan Horse” the anti-gunners are looking for. Secondly, there will be an issue of standards of training because each state has established their own level of competency each applicant must meet in order to be issued a CWP (Concealed Weapon Permit). For example, say one state does not require anything but a clean background in order to be issued a CWP, but another state requires a minimum level of training in order to be permitted to carry concealed in their state. How is the Federal Government going to reconcile this disparity? If I was in a State Legislature that requires a higher level of competency, I would not be happy about having a bunch of people walking around packing that may or may not be competent to carry. As a citizen of that state I would be concerned for the same reasons. Does this mean that this function would no longer be the responsibility of the states? What about states rights? This Legislation walks all over that issue. And thirdly, how would this law, if enacted play into the UN Inter-American Arms Treaty being negotiated right now by the Secretary of State in the Obama Administration? With the Feds in control of these permits, there could be provisions in this treaty, if ratified, that would have serious effects and require the government to enact draconian conditions on the issuance of these permits, thusly putting foreign governments in control of our 2nd Amendment. In conclusion, I am opposed to this legislation for the reasons outlined above.
MY NOTE:
I sent this as a letter to my Reps on this subject. So should you.
RESPONSE FROM MARIA CANTWELL 102111
Thank you for contacting me with your comments regarding concealed carry laws and reciprocity agreements. I appreciate hearing from you on this important issue.
Under existing law, the authority to issue concealed carry permits falls within state jurisdiction. Washington State is a “shall-issue” state meaning that residents who meet the necessary criteria (e.g. at least 21 years of age) shall be issued a concealed carry permit upon request. Currently, each state decides which out-of-state permits they will honor. This is done via reciprocity and recognition agreements. In Washington State, the concealed carry permits of other states receive reciprocity only if the licensing state: (1) does not issue permits to individuals under the age of 21, and (2) requires mandatory fingerprint-based background checks of criminal and mental health history (RCW 9.41.073).
As you know, Senator John Thune (SD) introduced Senate Amendment 1618 (S.Amdt. 1618) to the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010 (S. 1390) on July 17, 2009. This amendment would have preempted reciprocity agreements, including those of Washington State. In effect, it would have created a nationalized concealed carry permit set at the lowest issuance standard. Washington State would be forced to grant reciprocity to any permit holder, even if the issuing state did not meet the basic safety and suitability requirements of Washington State law. I opposed this amendment which was not agreed to by the Senate on July 20, 2009.
As your Senator, you can be assured that I will work to protect the legitimate rights of law-abiding American gun-owners, while continuing to support responsible gun control legislation to reduce crime and make our communities safer. I believe both of these goals are important and can be simultaneously accomplished through common-sense gun laws and stricter enforcement of existing laws. Thank you again for contacting me to share your thoughts on this matter. You may also be interested in signing up for periodic updates for Washington State residents. If you are interested in subscribing to this update, please visit my website at http://cantwell.senate.gov. Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future if I can be of further assistance.
Sincerely,
Maria Cantwell
United States Senator
For future correspondence with my office, please visit my website at
http://cantwell.senate.gov/contact/index.html
MY NOTE: She did not address my concerns adequately and did not mention the UN Inter-American Arms Treaty
UPDATED
010612 (OUT OF ORDER)
Reply from Maria Cantwell
Thank you for contacting me with your comments regarding concealed carry laws and reciprocity agreements. I appreciate hearing from you on this important issue.
Under existing law, the authority to issue concealed carry permits for firearms falls within state jurisdiction. Washington State is a
“shall-issue” state, meaning that residents who meet the necessary criteria (e.g. at least 21 years of age) shall be issued a concealed
carry permit upon request. Currently, each state decides what out-of-state permits it will honor. This is done via reciprocity and
recognition agreements. In Washington State, the concealed carry permits of other states receive reciprocity only if the licensing state: (1) does not issue permits to individuals under the age of 21, and (2) requires mandatory fingerprint-based background checks of criminal and mental health history (RCW 9.41.073). On February 18, 2011, Representative Cliff Stearns (R-FL) introduced the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2011 (H.R. 822) in the U.S. House of Representatives. This proposed legislation was passed out of the House of Representatives and has been referred to the Senate Committee on the Judiciary, where it is awaiting further review. If enacted, this legislation would amend the federal criminal code to authorize a person with a valid permit to carry a concealed firearm issued by one state to carry a concealed handgun in another state in accordance with that state’s restrictions. The legislation would not apply to those prohibited from possessing, transporting, or receiving firearms under federal law. As your Senator, you can be assured that I will work to protect the legitimate rights of law-abiding American gun-owners, while continuing
to support responsible gun control legislation to reduce crime and make our communities safer. I believe both of these goals are important and can be simultaneously accomplished through common-sense gun laws and stricter enforcement of existing laws.
Thank you again for contacting me to share your thoughts on this matter. You may also be interested in signing up for periodic updates for Washington State residents. If you are interested in subscribing to this update, please visit my website at http://cantwell.senate.gov. Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future if I can be of further assistance.
Sincerely,
Maria Cantwell
United States Senator
For future correspondence with my office, please visit my website at
http://cantwell.senate.gov/contact/
UPDATED 102611
HR 822 PASSES COMMITTEE HURDLE
EMAIL FROM NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR GUN RIGHTS 111711:
| I was right to be concerned.Not only was H.R. 822 — the Trojan horse gun control bill — passed out of the House of Representatives this evening, it was passed with an amendment that would open the door to federal biometric requirements for concealed firearms permits and a federally-administered database of all permit holders.
Only 7 Republican Members of Congress stood against federal overreach in the concealed carry process by opposing this bill (you can see how your Representative voted here:http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2011/roll852.xml). The bill was amended this afternoon by ostensibly “pro-gun” Republicans to require a study be done on the ability of law enforcement officers to verify the validity of out-of-state concealed firearm permits. You and I both know what this means. A year from now, the study will come back stating that the only way to “verify” out-of-state permits is through federally-mandated biometric requirements for concealed firearm permits and Congress “must” create a nationally administered database of all concealed weapon permit holders. One of my biggest concerns about this bill — the lists of gun owners a permit process creates — should send shivers down your spine: Imagine Eric Holder and the BATFE with a national database of concealed carry permit holders. It’s bad enough to have those lists exist at a state level. Once Eric Holder and his cronies find a way to request that list from a state, they’ll do it — all the in the name of “implementing H.R. 822.” The legislation now moves to the Harry Reid-run Senate, where companion legislation is expected to be introduced in the coming days. I have no doubt that the anti-gunners in the Senate will use this as an opportunity to make H.R. 822 even worse. What troubles me most about this battle is the institutional gun lobby has been leading the charge for this legislation. In fact, they’ve been brow-beating Members of Congress who dare to question the consequences of passing such a broad, overreaching piece of legislation. Republican Congressman Justin Amash (MI-03) fought back against the institutional gun lobby for its support of H.R. 822: “It’s remarkably bold of the National Rifle Association to send out false and misleading messages regarding H R 822, an unconstitutional bill that improperly applies the Commerce Clause to concealed carry licensing. I would support legislation that gets the federal government out of the way of states that want to recognize other states’ concealed carry permits. In contrast, H R 822 will hurt gun rights by conceding broad new authority to the federal government to override state sovereignty. Gun rights advocates have fought hard to prevent liberal abuse of the Commerce Clause that would restrict gun rights… I am disappointed that the NRA has decided to put its own interests ahead of the interests of gun owners. Fortunately, many other gun rights groups rightly oppose H R 822.” Please call your Senator at (202) 224-3121 and tell them you want to keep the government’s hands off your permit and that you oppose federal intrusion into the concealed weapons permit process. For Freedom,
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OBAMA PLANS NEW GUN CONTROL PUSH (“UNDER THE RADAR”)
Posted by conservativeamericanvet in 2nd AMENDMENT ISSUES, CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES, CORRUPT POLITICIANS, HOT NEWS!!, LEFT WING EXTREMIST STUFF, MOVE TOWARDS POLICE STATE, NEW WORLD ORDER STUFF, OBAMA WATCH, OP-ED, PATRIOTIC STUFF, POLITICAL NEWS, POWER GRABS, RADICALS, USEFULL INFORMATION on 08/24/2011
This is serious......
This article from Chuck Norris explains the new gun control scheme by Obama and his cronies. As reported in POLITICO, Obama met with the Brady anti-gunners planning the UN Arms Trade Treaty. This is serious and our 2nd amend. rights are under full assault. Click HERE for an explanation of the treaty ratification process. This is serious and patriots need to stand up on this!
Letter to Jaime Herrera Beutler (WA-R 3rd Dist) Regarding the DHS Extremism Report and Social Site Monitoring
Posted by conservativeamericanvet in 1st AMENDMENT ISSUES, 2012 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES, 2nd AMENDMENT ISSUES, CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES, LETTERS TO ELECTED OFFICIALS, ROUGE AGENCIES, VIDEOS on 08/05/2011
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I am writing you in the hopes that you will look into what I believe is a huge insurgency against the civil liberties being perpetrated by The Department of Homeland Security, against the law abiding citizens of this country. I am referring to two items in particular, that put together, creates a situation that is very chilling. What I am referring to is “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment” Report dated 7 April 2009 that was published by the DHS. This report very effectively categorizes anyone who has traditional conservative values as a “Rightwing Extremist”. Reading through the report, I dare say, every conservative, or for that matter, anyone who has traditional American values, is being effectively categorized as a “Rightwing Extremist”. If this was not bad enough, the DHS just came out and stated that they will be monitoring all the “social sites” for signs of “Extremism”. What I am sure of, is that the DHS is going to use this report as a roadmap and the justification in order to intrude into the normal, law abiding citizens lives and business. This monitoring, I feel is meant to quell the dissenting voices of those who oppose the current administration, using “Security” as the ruse and justification for doing so. And because of this “Extremism” Report, the DHS can use it as justification for investigations even if nothing illegal or threatening was ever uttered or written on any particular web site. Simple opinions would be enough justification for the DHS to initiate investigations on law abiding citizens.
I am asking you to look into this important matter. I will be publishing this correspondence on my web site https://conservativeamericanvet.wordpress.com/ for my readers. I will be waiting for your reply, which in-turn, I will also post.
TODAYS RECOMMENDED READING
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/43325286
http://www.infowars.com/breaking-secret-bilderberg-agenda-leaked-by-mole/
http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=77923
http://www.timesnews.net/article.php?id=9032750
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/WeirdNews/2011/06/09/18261011.html
http://michellemalkin.com/2011/06/08/dept-of-education/
U.N. Agreement Should Have All Gun Owners Up In Arms
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IS THIS THE FACE OF DOOM? Both Hillary and Barrack want your guns. Obama has always been and anti-gunner and remember the Clinton so called "Assault Gun Ban"?
The anti-gunners on the left are still at it. If this UN agreement is allowed to pass, it will mean the end of the United States as a sovereign nation. The UN and all our enemies want to see the US citizens disarmed. This act will weaken the US to such a degree, we will cease to exist as a free nation. I urge all to watch your Representatives and Senators closely. Tell them what you think of this situation. DO IT or LOSE IT! Click the pic for the story.
OBAMA WORKING ON (SHOTGUN) GUN CONTROL “UNDER THE RADAR”
Posted by conservativeamericanvet in 2012 Vote, 2nd AMENDMENT ISSUES, CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES, CORRUPT POLICE WATCH, CORRUPT POLITICIANS, FOUNDING FATHERS STUFF, HOT NEWS!!, LEFT WING EXTREMIST STUFF, NEW WORLD ORDER STUFF, OBAMA WATCH, OP-ED, PATRIOTIC STUFF, POLITICAL COMMENTARY, POLITICAL NEWS, POWER GRABS, RADICALS, TAKING BACK THE GOVERNMENT on 05/23/2011
OBAMA THINKS YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE THESE. SO DOES THE ATF!!!
Obama has been busy. He is working hard at violating the 2nd Amendment with the help of the ATF. This action does not surprise me, but it does concern me. Look what Clinton did. Even though he “banned” assault guns, it did almost nothing to stem gun violence. Obama, I believe on the other hand, doesn’t really have simple gun violence as his impetus for his actions. I believe he intends to do everything he can to disarm Americans to favor the will of the international community who is pressuring the USA institute draconian, anti 2nd Amendment laws and policies. He will make your home defense gun illegal! I urge all to write your Representatives and Senators and tell them not to go down the gun control road. That subject has historically been the “3rd rail” of political issues and we need to make sure it stays that way. Click the pic for the story.
THE NEW THREATS TO THE 2ND AMMENDMENT. THE NEW GOVERNMENT INTENDS TO GET YOUR GUNS
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This article says it all. We cannot allow this to happen. Make sure you hold your Reps feet to the fire and watch them closely, especially the Lib Democrats. Their stated goal is to get rid of the guns and they will never give up, neither should we. Be vigilant and never take your eye off the ball. Click the pic for the story.
WASHINGTON STATE PATROL ON A FISHING EXPIDITION – WHO OWNS AR-15s?
Posted by conservativeamericanvet in 2nd AMENDMENT ISSUES, WASHINGTON STATE ISSUES on 03/24/2011
WASHINGTON STATE PATROL LOOKING FOR YOUR AR-15?
Please Contact Your Legislators Today!
The National Rifle Association has learned that the Washington State Patrol (WSP) has sent a letter, apparently to every firearms dealer in the state of Washington, as part of an investigation into “a missing/stolen AR-15.” The WSP has requested an incredible amount of information regarding dealer’s sales and acquisitions of AR-15’s and lower receivers over the last nine months. They want names, dates of births, addresses and more… from the past nine months! A statewide search through a mountain of information for ONE missing/stolen AR-15?
It seems preposterous to the NRA that the WSP would conceivably request this massive amount of sensitive data, in a search for ONE AR-15! It is the NRA’s view that there must be more to this story, a lot more. The NRA has placed two phone calls into the WSP today in search of clarifying information but has yet to receive any response on the matter. The NRA has also followed up with a letter of inquiry which notes that dealers are under no obligation to comply with the request.
We will keep our members apprised of any information that is forthcoming from the WSP. In the meantime, NRA suggests that you contact your State Legislators and let them know about this far-reaching and overly-broad request of firearm dealers by the state law enforcement agency. Ask your legislators to contact the WSP in an effort to find out what is going on in this case. You may contact your state Representative or state Senator by clicking here
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Also, please contact Governor Chris Gregoire, let her know about the requests currently being asked of Washington’s firearms dealers by the WSP and urge her to find out what is going on in this case. You can contact the Governor by clicking here
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N.J. LEGISLATORS LOOK FOR A “WORK-AROUND” ON CIRCUMVENTING THE 2ND AMENDMENT
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PRICE US OUT OF THE MARKET? YEA, IF THEY GET THE CHANCE!!
Leave it to the little industrious commie legislators to look for every work-around possible on getting around the 2nd Amendment. Hey, if they can’t outlaw or otherwise further regulate guns, they are going to go after the ammunition we need to make them functional… If this legislation passes, it will be the camel nose under the tent and the full court press on taxing ammo will begin. I urge all to keep an eye on your own legislature in order to be on top of this subject should it raise its ugly head in your state… Click the pic for the story…
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